the 25 people was for the size of the raid group (according to wowhead) because of the damage scaling. Also I think you misinterpret arguing and just trying to have a discussion.
Wind and I both said almost any time you bring up the cleave damage, but it appears we're wrong about that.
Sorry to say though but at the moment you are actually wrong and as a DPS maybe you should maybe refrain from commenting in areas where you have no direct relevant experience such as healing H butcher??
Maybe no one should just say anything that might help the raid kill stuff then. Maybe only 4 people in the group should have the only input and the rest of us just sit there like mindless peons and do as we are told. I'm, sure that's going to help us for when we get farther in progression.
Just because I play dps doesn't mean I don't understand how fights work for other players man, remember imp and ko ragh, I "only a DPS" helped quite a bit in there right? It just means that this particular part of a fight I thought you were wrong, and that's obviously not the case.
I really hope these posts about strat discussion don't turn into an argument, I was simply offering my idea, and my reasoning and you had better reasoning and I see now that you're way is better.